Member Profile: James Sage

"happily taken"

Member Since: 2009

South Australia, Australia

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Favourites
Food:	black coffee
Drink:	coffee with milk
Holiday:	anywhere that serves good coffee
Super Hero:	Simon Gerrans
Music:
Movie:	Breaking Away
Bike Details
Frame:	1972 Cinelli Speciale Corsa size 57
Wheels:	Campy Record hubs laced to Mavic Module E rims
Groupset:	1972 Campy Nuovo Record
Pedals:	Campy Superleggera Record with straps and toeclips
Bike Weight:	11 kg

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24 Mar 2011 11:04 PM posted in SRAM vs SHIMANO or CAMPAG

I have run Shimano Ultegra 6700 and DA Di2 and SRAM Red in recent times. For me: SRAM levers are much more comfortable that the mechanical Shimano groupset items and the double tap system is quite intuitive and easy to get used to. The most recent editions of Rival and Force have incorporated much of the Red features and many see Rival as about the best value groupset out there. Shifting for SRAM is middle between the buttery smoothness of Shimano and the distinctive clunk of Campy - personally I prefer the SRAM/Campy shifting feel than too much smoothness. On the down side for SRAM I find that SRAM (Red) is more sensitive to set-up and can require adjustment more frequently than Shimano Ultergra/DA to stay tuned - especially the front derailleuer. Note though that SRAM Red FD works a little differently than SRAM Force/Rival. In brakes the two are roughly equivalent - Shimano DA is often seen as the benchmark but SRAM is right there also - both are probably better than Campy before this year (when Campy finally intoduced a double pivot calliper for the rear) SRAM Red cranks are heavier than Shimano Da with worse bearings and flexier chainrings than Shimano DA. SRAM Force/Rival cranksets on the other hand are reportedly great performers and many Red owners swap their Red chainrings for Force ones. The older Shimano Ultegra 6700 crankset was heavy but also tested as the stiffest of them all. comparing the equivalent groupsets from each manufacturer - ie 105 vs Rival, Force VS Ultegra etc the SRAM gruppos are lighter - often significantly lighter which can be important to some depending on what you are building the bike for (it is to me) In short there are some points of difference but both a good performers - at SRAM Rival/Shimano 105 level I would go Rival - it is light, has very comfortable levers and works reliably (and the black looks great on most bikes) Happy riding In relation to the sub-thread going on - my 2c worth - I don't blame the shops - from what I can see it is the distributors who bring the products in who contribute most to the price difference between local and offshore sources - retail guys really don't have a lot of room to move pricewise. You know something is wrong when you can get an Australian brand product like Knog cheaper and faster from the UK than from local sources.